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#G0598* – Politicians Just Swop Seats AND Brains!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/08/2011

#G0598* – Politicians Just Swop Seats AND Brains!

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Referendum calls are absurd, says minister
By Toby Helm and Bruno Waterfield
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Gordon Brown was shaping up for a bitter and prolonged battle over Europe with the Conservatives last night after his Europe minister described calls for a referendum on the new European Union treaty as “frankly absurd”.
The comments by Jim Murphy, during a debate in the House of Commons, came ahead of a speech today by William Hague, the shadow foreign secretary, in which he will say a national vote is essential because the treaty would transfer powers from Westminster to Brussels “in spades”.
Mr Murphy also appeared to rule out any attempt to renegotiate the wording of the draft EU Treaty.
The Tories and some Labour MPs want ministers to change aspects of the draft treaty, including a section which they say would make national parliaments subservient to Brussels.
But Mr Murphy told MPs he had no intention of seeking any amendments. Responding to the eurosceptic Tory MP Bill Cash, who said there must be a referendum on a document that would create an EU president and foreign minister, Mr Murphy quoted the Europhile former Tory Chancellor, Kenneth Clarke, as saying to ask the people to vote on such a document would be “frankly absurd”.
Mr Murphy said he could not think of a better way to answer Mr Cash than to repeat Mr Clarke’s assessment.
In a sign that the Tories – who have been reluctant to reignite arguments over the EU since David Cameron became leader – are now willing to put the issue at centre stage again, Mr Hague will tell the Policy Exchange think-tank that the treaty will “fundamentally change the European Union and Britain’s place in it”.
He will argue that it is the same in all but name as the Constitutional Treaty on which Labour promised a referendum in its 2005 election manifesto. That treaty was killed in referendums in France and Holland.
Mr Hague will say that politicians across Europe have confirmed that the new document is essentially the same as the old.
“With power transferred from Britain to Brussels in spades and the EU fundamentally changed, there is no question but that the constitution by another name merits a referendum,” he will say. “After the constitution was rejected the first time around, the then foreign secretary – set out a simple test for any new treaty.
“If the new treaty had the president and the foreign minister, then, Jack Straw said, it would in essence be the constitution.
“The new treaty has the president and foreign minister. It is in essence the constitution. The remaining question is where the promised referendum is.”
David Miliband, the Foreign Secretary, last night repeated the Government’s refusal to hold a referendum on the new treaty. Mr Miliband, attending his first meeting of EU foreign ministers since his appointment, said: “The concept of a constitution has been abandoned. That is made clear in the new treaty. In that context we don’t think there needs to be a constitutional referendum.”
He went on: “The important question is whether it is a good treaty for Europe and for Britain or not? I think it is a good treaty for Europe and for Britain because it takes forward institutional reform in a sensible way and undermines the arguments of those saying that there is a superstate around the corner.
“It is evident that that is not the case.”

“In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.” 
Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821),

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British Politicians with pens and treachery, in pursuit of their own agenda and greed, have done more damage to the liberty, freedoms, rights and democracy of the British peoples than any army in over 1,000 years.

The disastrous effects of British politicians selling Britain into the thrall of foreign rule by the EU for their own personal rewards has damaged the well-being of Britain more than the armies of Hitler and the Franco – German – Italian axis of 1939 – 1945.

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#G0399* – 09-Jan-2011 – Telegraph – Has William HAGUE Been in Panto?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/01/2011

#G0399* – 09-Jan-2011 – Telegraph – Has William HAGUE Been in Panto?
 
Hi,
I am forced to wonder if the wee lad has been having one of his multi pint moments or perhaps he has been in Panto and like Rip van Winkel has been a sleep for many long years – what a rude awakening he must have had that having been party to enacting the passing of every item of legislation since his election to Parliament in 1989 – let us not forget that William Hague is 50 this year and we first saw him as a child at a Conservative Party conference giving his cringeworthy performance way back in 1977 – He must have been asleep!
Now blinking he has emerged into the full light of day and seems surprised that these United Kingdoms have been betrayed by both his own party and the lies of Labour.
What the point of his long after the event mutterings are is hard to guess.
The Tories still not read The New Constitution aka Lisbon Treaty – what are they taliking about when they say they promise a referendum on transfering further powers to The EU!! Perhaps William Hague could during his next long nap dream up what powers are left that could be transfered that are of any consequences.
The Treaty of Rome made it very clear – it was only the lies of Ted Heath, Rippon et al that obfuscated the matter THIS IS A POLITICAL & ECONOMIC UNION – how can William Hague not realise or is he using the same device as Norman Tebbit and Margaret Thatcher and pretending they had no idea until they are out of office – frankly I never believed Margaret Thatcher as she cut deals at Brughes to save fave, trading agricultural subsidies for rebates to look good!
Is William Hague really that stupid that he actually believes his article or is Ffion in the background pulling the strings?
We don’t WANT a referendum on transfer of power that they already have – we want a referendum to either quit the pretence of being a Country with laws, justice and government (the status quo) or repatriating all our human rights of self determination, re-patriating our democracy, restoring our Sovereignty, re-establishing our Justice and values and reinstating our Liberty & freedom –
Nothing less than an OUT / IN Referendum is acceptable.

Wake up Wee Willie Winkie time to climb the stairs and join the real world!

No more powers should be moved from Britain to the EU

Our system for approving European treaties is morally bankrupt, says Foreign Secretary William Hague.

No more powers should be moved from Britain to the EU

William Hague thinks we must change the law to ensure that by law the British people’s wishes can never be ignored in such a way again Photo: AFP/GETTY
The disillusionment of British voters with politicians has many causes: expenses scandals, economic pressures and the failures of the last Labour Government.
But high on the list of such causes is the sheer undemocratic arrogance with which a European treaty of huge significance – the Lisbon Treaty – was rammed into law two years ago with no mandate of any kind from the people of this country.
Labour’s cynical behaviour over that Treaty, the denial of any say for voters and the absurd pretence that this was nothing ordinary people should be allowed to concern themselves with was a very grave blow to the European Union’s democratic credentials in this country and has caused deep and lasting anger.
I would have dearly loved to hold a referendum on that treaty after a change of government: sadly the ratification of Lisbon by all 27 EU states last autumn made that impossible. But I have always been determined that this flagrant denial of democratic choice to the people of Britain would never happen again.
The current system we have for these kinds of decisions is, quite simply, now morally bankrupt. It must change.
It is our firm belief and our policy that no more powers should be moved from Britain to the EU but that is not enough – if any Government ever again attempted to change the EU Treaties to transfer further powers the British people must rightfully have their say.
So we must change the law to ensure that by law the British people’s wishes can never be ignored in such a way again. This will mark a fundamental shift of power from Government to Parliament and to the voters of this country, a shift long overdue.
The EU Bill we are bringing forward will put into the British people’s hands a referendum lock on any further changes to the EU’s Treaties that hand over powers from Britain to the EU, a lock to which only they will hold the key.
In the great detail necessary to cover the complexity of those Treaties and the various kinds of treaty change the Bill sets out in clear terms when Ministers must put a treaty change to a referendum.
Not only will Parliament now be given a full say over all kinds of treaty change but any treaty change that hands over powers to the EU or extends its control over any area of policy will also be subject to a referendum.
Not only would the removal of the veto over any of 44 separate treaty articles require a referendum, or the substantive use of any of 12 treaty articles, the Bill also lays down strict and comprehensive tests which will capture transfers of power on any change to the Treaties – whether an attempt to increase the EU’s powers over an existing area of policy or any reach into a new area of policy.
If any one of these tests are met – it is worth noting that the Lisbon Treaty would have been caught in numerous separate ways – then the law will require a referendum, and if any minister decides to ignore them then, like any other ministerial decision, they will be subject to judicial review in the courts.
So any British citizen will be able to go to court to enforce the electorate’s rights and ensure that ministers cannot wriggle out of a referendum.
Some people have argued that the Bill does not go far enough or has loopholes. But the truth is that only in a few minor areas does it give the ministers of the day any discretion at all about the calling of a referendum – and then only if they can persuade parliament and the courts that they are right. When it becomes an Act this will be the strongest defence of national democracy put in place anywhere in Europe. It is a massive advance for national democracy.
And not only will current and future ministers in this country know that they cannot hand over powers without a referendum but other nations’ governments will too. It will always have to be in their minds if they are contemplating changing the EU Treaties that any consequent increase in the EU’s powers would trigger a binding referendum in the United Kingdom.
In its sovereignty clause the Bill also deals with one potential but important problem for the future. It has been argued before the courts and by academic commentators that our membership of the EU has altered our ancient doctrine of parliamentary sovereignty. That doctrine is a matter that should be beyond such speculation, so the Bill confirms and affirms the position that EU law in this country is only recognised by virtue of the authority of acts of Parliament.
Such a defence for our nation’s democracy is a necessary complement to our vigorous and active engagement within the EU, an engagement which is already delivering solid results in our national interest: tough, targeted EU sanctions on Iran, a free trade agreement with South Korea and the beginnings of some financial reality in the EU budget.
This Bill is not a panacea for all the many additional problems in the EU we have to solve, but it does mean that in the future the most important decisions of all will belong not to the executive alone, or even Parliament, but the British people themselves. New rights given to people are, quite properly, hard and politically painful to claw back, so this Bill ought to become part of our settled constitutional order.
The Labour Party that voted against a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty now have a decision to make: can they recognise that the first step to political recovery is the admission of past mistakes and lend their support to this radical step to strengthen our democracy, or will they try to deny the British people their new democratic power? 

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