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The Risks & Duplicity In a Referendum on EU Membership.

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 31/08/2014


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.The Risks & Duplicity In a Referendum on EU Membership.


If Dave and his pals are our ‘clever elite’ why does Nigel make them look so stupid?

By Peter Hitchens

The only interesting things about Douglas Carswell’s switch from the Tory Party to Ukip are that it took him so long and that he has acted alone. Any thinking person has been able to see for years that the Tory Party hates conservatives. It is a roadblock, not a road, championing the elite against the people.

It is kept in being only by the BBC and various dodgy billionaires, who provide it with airtime and money out of all proportion to its real support. It has no actual aims except office at all costs.

It has no actual policies either, only negative smear campaigns, falsely portraying Ukip as mad Nazis, or Ed Miliband as some kind of Trotskyist loony.

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Laughing all the way: Even Nigel Farage has more of a clue about how the world works than our supposedly clever elite, writes Hitchens

Laughing all the way: Even Nigel Farage has more of a clue about how the world works than our supposedly clever elite, writes Hitchens

The party leader has never pretended to be anything other than he is – the heir to Blair. That is why so much of the Left-wing media prefer David Cameron to Ed Miliband.

Mr Cameron’s promise of a referendum on EU membership is worthless three times over. First, nobody can rely on his word after his broken promise to hold a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.

Second, Mr Cameron could  not win a Westminster majority in 2010, and there is even less chance of his doing so next May, as he well knows. He could promise paradise and be sure he would never have to deliver it. 

Conservative MP Douglas Carswell has defected to UKIP

Third, does anyone seriously think that a referendum on EU membership could be or would  be conducted fairly in a country whose main source of news is the BBC, and whose whole media establishment is pro-EU?

As I write, I have in front of me the sad relics of the 1975 referendum on the same subject. I had a narrow escape. I had meant to vote to stay in. But I voted ‘No’  (to leave) after my officially impartial local newspaper delayed a story I had written on the eve of the vote because it would have harmed the ‘Yes’ campaign.

Months of brainwashing were cancelled out by this sharp personal experience of the ‘Yes’ campaign’s instinctive and necessary dishonesty. If it didn’t lie about its real aims, it would never get any support. The whole thing was rigged from the start (as Mr Cameron’s would be).

There are no laws to stop this. In 1975, the state used taxes to pay for and send out two pamphlets urging a ‘stay in’ vote – one from the Government and one from  the ‘Yes’ campaign’ – but only one from the ‘No’ campaign.

Read them now and the ‘Yes’ material is often dishonest drivel, including a false claim that the threat of economic and monetary union ‘has been removed’. Not exactly. The ‘No’ pamphlet, by contrast, is prophetic and truthful.

But in 1975, nobody foresaw that the EU would one day abolish British passports and force us to throw open our borders to legions of low-paid workers from the former communist bloc. Nor could they have known that the EU would be aggressively fomenting a new war with Russia, using our money to do so.

Brussels distributed more than £300 million of taxpayers’ money in Ukraine between 2007 and 2013. It went to all kinds of lucky recipients, so it is no great surprise that Kiev blossomed with EU flags last winter during the violent mob putsch which so many idiots in the West supported.

They were generally the same idiots who supported the ‘Arab Spring’, and so helped plunge Libya and Syria into a sea of blood and fire, and to launch ‘Islamic State’. Now these idiots are well  on the way to starting the biggest European war since 1945, and are busy blaming Russia for having the effrontery to defend itself against this blatant aggression.

It really is time that we understood that those in charge of this country have no idea what they are doing. Even Nigel Farage has more of a clue about how the world works than our supposedly clever elite.

And yet those who could make a difference still cling to the Tory nurse for fear of finding something worse. Well, what could be worse than bankruptcy, uncontrolled mass immigration and war?

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Sadly based upon my own experience and research on this subject I incline to agree with Peter Hitchen’s comments on this issue.
However I would draw your attention to the fact that David Cameron did NOT promise a referendum on the EU’s new constitution subsequently renamed, for the purposes of obfuscation, The Lisbon Treaty – his promise of a referendum for the British peoples was duplicitously promised based on the condition that the treaty had not been signed when he came to power; a promise he must surely have known would never have to be honoured!
You will also note that Nigel Farage and his cult followers in Ukip made virtually no effort to oppose the Lisbon Treaty in Britain or Brussels prior to its being signed; many will recall Farage spent his time swanning around in Ireland aiding associates, seeking to gain the backing of Declan Ganley it seemed; sheltering behind their claim that the Tories were doing the work to oppose it – They were not!
There is every reason to believe that even without direct lies from the largely self serving political elite in Britain it is likely that ignorance on the part of the electorate and biased media coverage using innuendo and F.U.D. would ensure that Britain would vote for its own continued destruction – just as there is every possibility the Scots will vote for their own destruction with a Yes vote injust a few days time, on the 18-Sep-2014.
Sadly the concept of ‘One man one vote’ in a so called democracy most clearly leads automatically to ‘Rule by The Fool’!
It is also worth responding to Peter Hitchen’s simplistic question
‘If Dave and his pals are our ‘clever elite’ why does Nigel make them look so stupid?’
Hitchens clearly chooses to overlook just how easy it is to look good as a showman and populist when pandering to the lowest levels as a critic in opposition with a huge budget funded by the tax payer to the tune of £Millions!
It is an entirely different matter when one has to act with measured gravitas and actually represent ones country on an accountable basis with its downside risks!



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#G0660* – UKIP’s Nigel Farage has an article in The Sun

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 10/07/2012

#G0660* – UKIP’s Nigel Farage has an article in The Sun..

“In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.” 
Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)


UKIP has a good article in The Sun today over the by-line of Nigel Farage.
It is such a pity that with some sound comment coming from UKIP and being published, at last – it is so damaged as a result of UKIP association with racism, anti judaism, anti homosexuality, extremism, bullying and the dishonest & corrupt use of a small army of low lifes and sock puppets willing to lie and defame from their cowardly stance.

Without responsible behaviour UKIP does more harm than good to the wish of the majority of the British peoples to Leave-The-EU – without some gravitas and a clear exit & survival strategy UKIP can talk and publish all it likes but it will continue to bump along the bottom of British politics with an average vote when it can find a candidate of around 5-7% which is inadequate to be of any real significance in the struggle for Independence.

The constant reports of defamatory lies, corruption, back stabbing & lack of vision & political nouse guarantees UKIP’s long term irrelevance.

That said here is their latest little flurry of activity:

We won’t get fooled again, PM

UK Independence Party leader

Nigel Farage

Poll call … Nigel Farage
Published: 16 minutes ago

THE public is running out of patience with David Cameron over his dawdling on Europe – and UK Independence Party chief Nigel Farage is backing The Sun’s call for a referendum.

A Sun on Sunday survey found 67 per cent want a vote on whether the UK stays in the European Union.
Here, UKIP leader Mr Farage explains why that referendum cannot come soon enough.

BACK in 1971, a couple of years before we joined the Common Market (as the EU was called then), The Who wrote that great song Won’t Get Fooled Again.

But in the past 40 years we’ve been fooled time and time again.

We were told our membership of Europe was about trade and opening up markets to British goods.

Instead we got political interference, endless rules and regulations, our fish stocks plundered, and foreign criminals claiming the “right to a family life” in Britain.
Sound like a free trade agreement to you? No, me neither.

EU flag and handcuffs

Locked in … UK vote on EU is vital, says Nigel Farage

Now David Cameron is trying to do it again. His “cast-iron guarantee” on an EU referendum, made in the pages of The Sun, soon rusted. His next con trick will be telling you he needs a chance to renegotiate with Europe and make a deal. 

This newspaper is right to look at the possibility of recalibrating our relationship with Brussels but I am sceptical as to whether we would ever get the best deal for Britain.
Any agreement needs to get the go-ahead from all the other countries in the EU.

It would be like trying to have an amicable divorce with 26 ex-partners who all blame you for their problems — partners who cost you £50million a day, by the way.

They are not going to send us home with a box of Belgian chocolates and a bottle of French red.

At the very best, Mr Cameron will arrive back from Brussels, cheeks flushed with victory, telling us we’re just in the “single market” now and that means trade — nothing more, nothing less.

The single market cripples British businesses.

The single market is responsible for all those health and safety regulations and environmental directives that this newspaper has campaigned against for years.

More than that, if we remain a part of it, we still won’t be able to strike trade deals with the rest of the world. While China, Brazil, India and the rest of the Commonwealth flourish, we will be handcuffed to the EU, with their sky-high unemployment rates, doomed single currency and economies set to stagnate for the next ten to 20 years.

Every year, the EU sells us £52billion more in goods than we buy from them.

We have more of a taste for German cars than they do for Scotch whisky, and it is nonsense to suggest they‘d refuse to sell us another Merc if we left the EU.

Renegotiation is an option but not a solution.

EU have to fight now, PM

EU and cry … our report 

The British people deserve a true choice in a straight in/out referendum.Mr Cameron does not want you to have that poll, in case you don’t give him the answer he wants — which is to stay in the EU. But only after a NO vote could we get that free-trade deal. You know, the one we thought we’d originally signed up to.

Sixty-two per cent of Sun readers do not trust the PM. This gives me hope.

Do me a favour, David, and have a listen to that song by The Who, on iTunes, and don’t get fooled again.

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